Joan’s son (10) is a football talent: ‘Our agenda is completely determined by his training’

Editor-in-chief Jannine Berkelaar and editor-in-chief Mariëtte Middelbeek talk about it with Joan Makenbach: journalist, but above all mother of an up-and-coming football talent and a big football fan herself.

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